Pugni e pugnali

[Alyan]

parlando con amici del combattimento con 2 armi ci siamo incastrati su questa domanda:si puo usare l'attaco senz'armi + un altra arma ?

[Godric il Paladino]

io credo di si...con tutti gli eventuali malus del caso...

Regolisti prego a voi l'ardua sentenza;-)

[Morwen]

ma.. non ho capito bene..

Vuoi sapere se un monaco può combinare la sua raffica con combattere con due armi, utilizzando un'arma?

[Godric il Paladino]

ma penso che chieda anche in generale...o sbaglio Alyan?

[zelgadiss]

sì, basta decidere quale mettere come primaria e quale come secondaria.

bye bye....

[Morwen]

In generale direi di sì.. Si considera il colpo senz'armi come un'arma leggera e si applicano gli stessi malus che si applicherebbero se nella mano secondaria si tenesse una qualsiasi altra arma leggera..

Se invece vuoi sapere se il monaco può combinare la raffica con combattere con due armi... boh, questa è una cosa che non ho ancora capito, ma ci sono diverse discussioni su questo ^^

EDIT: Zel mi ha preceduto ^^

[zelgadiss]

Se invece vuoi sapere se il monaco può combinare la raffica con combattere con due armi... boh, questa è una cosa che non ho ancora capito, ma ci sono diverse discussioni su questo ^^

per questo riporto SRD

Flurry of Blows (Ex): When unarmored, a monk may strike with a flurry of blows at the expense of accuracy. When doing so, she may make one extra attack in a round at her highest base attack bonus, but this attack takes a –2 penalty, as does each other attack made that round. The resulting modified base attack bonuses are shown in the Flurry of Blows Attack Bonus column on Table: The Monk. This penalty applies for 1 round, so it also affects attacks of opportunity the monk might make before her next action. When a monk reaches 5th level, the penalty lessens to –1, and at 9th level it disappears. A monk must use a full attack action to strike with a flurry of blows.

When using flurry of blows, a monk may attack only with unarmed strikes or with special monk weapons (kama, nunchaku, quarterstaff, sai, shuriken, and siangham). She may attack with unarmed strikes and special monk weapons interchangeably as desired. When using weapons as part of a flurry of blows, a monk applies her Strength bonus (not Str bonus x 1-1/2 or x1/2) to her damage rolls for all successful attacks, whether she wields a weapon in one or both hands. The monk can’t use any weapon other than a special monk weapon as part of a flurry of blows.

In the case of the quarterstaff, each end counts as a separate weapon for the purpose of using the flurry of blows ability. Even though the quarterstaff requires two hands to use, a monk may still intersperse unarmed strikes with quarterstaff strikes, assuming that she has enough attacks in her flurry of blows routine to do so.

When a monk reaches 11th level, her flurry of blows ability improves. In addition to the standard single extra attack she gets from flurry of blows, she gets a second extra attack at her full base attack bonus.

e FAQ

Can a monk fight with two weapons? Can she combine

a two-weapon attack with a flurry of blows? What are her

penalties on attack rolls?

A monk can fight with two weapons just like any other

character, but she must accept the normal penalties on her

attack rolls to do so. She can use an unarmed strike as an offhand

weapon. She can even combine two-weapon fighting with

a flurry of blows to gain an extra attack with her off hand (but

remember that she can use only unarmed strikes or special

monk weapons as part of the flurry). The penalties for twoweapon

fighting stack with the penalties for flurry of blows.

For example, at 6th level, the monk Ember can normally

make one attack per round at a +4 bonus. When using flurry of

blows, she can make two attacks (using unarmed strikes or any

special monk weapons she holds), each at a +3 bonus. If she

D&D FAQ v.3.5 10 Update Version: 4/26/06

wants to make an extra attack with her off hand, she has to

accept a –4 penalty on her primary hand attacks and a –8

penalty on her off-hand attacks (assuming she wields a light

weapon in her off hand).

If Ember has Two-Weapon Fighting, she has to accept only

a –2 penalty on all attacks to make an extra attack with her off

hand. Thus, when wielding a light weapon in her off hand

during a flurry of blows, she can make a total of three attacks,

each at a total bonus of +1. At least one of these attacks has to

be with her off-hand weapon.

A 20th-level monk with Greater Two-Weapon Fighting can

make eight attacks per round during a flurry of blows.

Assuming she wields a light weapon in her off hand, her three

off-hand weapon attacks are at +13/+8/+3, and she has five

attacks (at +13/+13/+13/+8/+3) with unarmed strikes or any

weapons she carries in her primary hand. If the same monk also

has Rapid Shot and throws at least one shuriken as part of her

flurry of blows (since Rapid Shot can be used only with ranged

attacks), she can throw one additional shuriken with her

primary hand, but all of her attacks (even melee attacks) suffer

a –2 penalty. Thus, her full attack array looks like this:

+11/+11/+11/+11/+6/+1 primary hand (two must be with

shuriken) and +11/+6/+1 off hand.

e pure questa discussione

http://www.dragonslair.it/forum/showthread.php?t=6900&page=2

bye bye....

[Paladino]

Si, tutto vero: il combattimento a 2 mani vale anche con i colpi senz'armi (che sono considerati armi leggere).

In particolare, il monaco nella sua raffica i colpi può usare indistintamente colpi senz'armi o armi (ovviamente quelle speciali del monaco)

[Tillo1234]

che poi perchè usare il pugnale da 1d4 quando con un cazzotto il monaco arriva a fare secchiate di d20 ?

[Guderian]

per gli incantamenti che puoi mettere sui pugnali...

e perchè puoi avere pugnali diversi, di materiali diversi, con incantamenti diversi

Questo a mio avviso

[¤†FlameKeeper†¤]

Emmm...probabilmente perchè il pg su cui è nato il post nn deve essere x forza un monaco...la discussione sulla raffica è nata come "effetto collaterale"

[daemon]

nel caso in cui il pg in questione non è un monaco però non dimenticate che c'è anche la necessita di avere il talento attacco senz'armi migliorato altrimenti ci sono ulteriori penalità, tipo attacchi d'opportunità e via dicendo